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Washington Mutual demanda a la FDIC por 17 billones US$ + daños

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Re: Hearing 23 Diciembre... ¿noticias en enero 2015?

This is a repost from iHub by Bluefoxx. It is reposted here with his direct permission. {remember folks, ALWAYS ask before taking somebody else's work and reposting it.}

Source: http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=108565546

It's time to focus on 2015 and what is going to happen in the coming months. As many of you know I have been focusing on KKR and the deal they made with WMIH on the Warrants and the future injection of up to 1 Billion in our little shell and these stock warrants that have been contracted by the BOD of WMIH at a strike price of $1.32 and $1.43 respectively. These warrants (when exercised) will give KKR a new larger equity stake in WMIH. But, at what price if KKR willing to pay WMIH shareholders in terms of the risks vs rewards on exercising these benefits? In the language KKR stated "they would not hedge or short WMIH stock until 2016." This was very important to add, because it shows strong support for our success in the future.

We know the NOL language in IRS 382 is clear and concise on what represents a "testing period and a testing date." We know we have passed the 2-year "lock requirement" on the NOL's by the "continuity of business" requirement and are fast-approaching the 3-year NOL "ownership change" restriction being lifted on Jan 1, 2015.

Here is how this has to work in steps..

1. No money other than what is going to the PIERS in terms of the RON's is coming too escrow until at least March 2015. THJMW has allowed all hearings to be pushed back to March 2015 (because WMIH/WMILT lawyers needed it, to not take any chances on jeopardizing what THJMW said "is a very large asset "The NOL"s) on the all claims left-over in the bankruptcy court via the "employee claims and monies set-aside for the benefit of these claims" if these claims are not allowed the equity shares will be returned to the treasury of WMIH and the funds will be disbursed to the WMILT to go down the waterfall to the escrows, once the PIERS are satisfied. This will happen in 2015. However, a couple of things have to happen with WMIH first.

2. Warrants.... KKR can not exercise the warrants until WMIH can legally (w/o jeopardizing the 5.95B NOL's) issue the amount of shares 71M that are necessary to raise the capital for the acquisition. KKR has purchased preferred stock, that is "convertible to common equity on a one-one basis"

Subject to the completion of definitive documentation, due diligence and the terms and conditions of the Commitment Letter, KKR has agreed (i) to purchase approximately $10.55 million face amount of convertible preferred stock of the Company at a price per share of $1.10 convertible on a one-for-one basis into shares of common stock of the Company (the "Convertible Preferred Stock") This gives them rights to 9.59M shares of WMIH.

A. Why would KKR invest up to 85M in exercising these warrants if the tax-implications to them were going to affect any future profit?

In the "white paper" I have posted and that post should been stickied over any other on this board because of the language in it that affects the future of WMIH. You see.. The BOD did not anticipate such a large that the interest in WMIH would be so high, that they price would shoot up to $3.70 PPS in a matter of months "OR DID THEY!". I mean they were at 700M MV and that was not good for KKR or them for that matter, so they had to stay silent to let the interest wane and the stock fall. I mean they even said "we did not authorize the trading of our securities on the exchange/we are not aware of any market maker making a market in our stock." The BOD telegraphed the "subliminal message" to us all, this board was so stuck on the damn escrows, the DD'ers were asleep at the wheel.

You see... This BOD can not issue equity to KKR (warrant exercise) until Jan 1, 2015. So, the stock had to go back down to the strike price KKR needs to exercise w/o affecting their bottom line. Time was the only thing that would do it. Time and shareholders selling into the "lack of communication" by the BOD. It makes sense, it has to go back down near that strike price or it will counter-productive for KKR to exercise the warrants. KKR is hit with a strike price vs equity trading price for the day tax. It is in the regulations, I posted on the "white paper" and this Ihub Board needs to get that stickied... I will post the link at the end of this doc.

Simple math...KKR warrant price (A) is $1.38.. WMIH (B) is PPS on exercise date. C (Total over strike price PPS that KKR will deduct as an ordinary gain) D (# of shares at that price) E (Total tax to KKR) F (amount KKR will pay for warrants)

G (future gain in PPS needed by KKR to make up for Tax that received as part of warrant exercise) G (PPS WMIh will need to go to for KKR to return value from WMIH investment)

B-A=C Cx D= E B= (Today PPS) (B)$1.85-(A)$1.38 = (C).47 (C).47 X (D) 71M = (E) 33.37M (KKR will realized this in instant equity, but they only receive a return when they sell this stock) So it is going to cost that shareholders of KKR in taxes 33.37M to make the WMIH investment. Don't expect KKR to sell "one share" of WMIH when you delve into the #'s for the future. The question is "what is the perfect strike price for KKR?"

If KKR has to take on a tax to make the WMIH investment, how much can they willingly allow?

If WMILT was to give WMI escrow holders funds before the acquisition, would it ever be feasible for KKR to exercise the warrants because of the massive spike in PPS will push WMIH to new highs. I for one, will buy WMIH shares with my funds. That 5.95 Billion in locked NOL's is a big deal to many large-cap companies. The only way for KKR to avoid the massive amount of warrant exercise tax is too just purchase the entire company, which they can not do or simply let the warrants expire. I do not believe they will just let a really good return for their shareholders expire, so here is how it has to go down

1. In Jan 2015. KKR exercises the warrants when the PPS is at that 20-25% warrant exercise price. That is between $1.62-$1.72. I expect you will all of sudden see WMIH has a an O/S of 273M instead of 208M at the end of the first trading day in Jan. Because the BOD of WMIH knows for tax reasons some WMIH shareholders will sell -off their investments at the EOY in DEC. Then purchase them back (causing a large spike in PPS) in Jan. This will affect KKR's shareholders, so they will need to exercise the warrants as soon as the NOL's are locked in for good per IRS 382 and the "white paper" I posted. The first trading day is Jan 2, 2015 (friday) perfect day to buy WMIH shares in morning and announce in afternoon after market closes.

2. Acquisition closed.

3. THJMW releases funds back to WMILT and shares back to WMIH in March 2015.
4. WMIH soars on this news, because money returned to escrows will flow into WMIH trading.
5. We move on from there.

As for BOD message in Meeting about "logistics were not right for acquisition in March 2014." You bet there weren't. KKR would have had to pay a huge sum of warrant exercise money to the IRS because IRS treats it as an ordinary gain/loss and WMIH would have needed to issue more shares via a "rights offering" to WMIH shareholders to keep the calculations for equity right, to not jeopardize the NOL's....

So, the board had to let this pps go back down or KKR could not exercise the warrants. WMIH could not sell any stock at those prices to help the treasury, It was not good for either party...Hence the trading language. I don't think the BOD expected such a huge jump in PPS of WMIH on that news. I mean it went to $2.20 on the announcement and all the way to $3.70.. I bet they knew at that moment.. Nothing was happening in 2014.. The PPS on speculation was too high.

Now the best deal for the WMIH BOD and KKR has to be the 1st trading day in Jan. Many who sell in 2014, will be buying back on that day. This will push that PPS back up and if they do not do it then, they will need to wait quite awhile for it to fall back into range on "no news/silence by them."

It is the only scenario IMHO that makes sense to KKR..Why burden their shareholders with such an ordinary gain just to invest in WMIH when they exercise the warrants? They also want to participate in any equity offering up to 42.5% ownership...

IMO we are golden in early 2015.

...continued development, of researching and understanding the principles associated with IRC 382, especially the change of control regulations, and then making a well thought out application to the Strategic Investment Agreement terms and conditions for KKR's potential ownership participation in WMIH. After being airported with late weather arrivals and having free time yesterday, I'm short for a few days. One more pick up this am, then we can enjoy the holiday.

Two items, when you can, would expand your work product and understanding. First is the concept of "value" versus "share count" in the calculation of the % increases should KKR exercise the warrants. This supports your theory component regarding the disadvantages of the rapid rise in PPS in December 2013 on another front (aside from the immediate tax consequences on exercising the warrants as ordinary income on the gain over the warrant exercise price). Second, again, is the 3-year rule. Specifically, there is no beginning or ending period of such, it is a rolling application any time there is a change in the 5%er (increases only). The trigger for testing dates can happen over and over, and there is no 'clearance once one testing period has been passed and met if there is another change in 5%er.

Again, really impressive research and practical application to our unique situation with a theory that is supported by such. Enjoy the holiday.

Further update from Bluefoxx (posted by David West due to iHub having Bluefoxx on post restrictions) -- http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=108578800

Tax at Exercise

When you exercise warrants to buy the underlying stock, you pay the stated strike price to the issuing company. The difference between the strike price and the price of a share, minus the cost basis, is taxable income. Suppose you exercise warrants with a strike price of $30 per share to buy 100 shares of XY Company and you originally paid $500 for the warrants. Your total investment is thus $3,500. If the market price on the day of exercise is $50, the stock is worth $5,000 and the difference is $1,500. This $1,500 is taxable as ordinary income in the year of exercise. It is not a capital gain because you did not own the shares prior to exercising the warrants.

Capital Gains and Losses

You can sell the shares you acquire by exercising stock warrants immediately. If instead you decide to hold on to the stock, the exercise price becomes your cost basis. Any further gains or losses are capital gains or losses. If you sell the shares one year or less from the date of exercise, you have a short-term capital gain (or loss) that is taxable as ordinary income at the same rate as your other income such as wages or salary. If you hold the shares for more than a year after exercise, it’s a long-term gain or loss. Long-term gains are taxed at a maximum rate of 15 percent as of 2013.


The above explanation is in line with what may be a concern of KKR, as they consider exercising their WMIH warrants.


Re: Hearing 23 Diciembre... ¿noticias en enero 2015?

Large Green Tuesday, 12/02/14 08:06:54

Investors with no faith in Escrow Shares – Could this be why?

Many investors continue to believe all equity received was tax attributes in a fifty cent shell company with no future.
• Original POR planners were to receive NEWCO and tax attributes
• One had to own 2 million in Piers to be part of NEWCO originally with earlier PORs
• Many actions changed between 2/09/2012 and 2/23/2012
• Very mysterious trading during 1/25 and 2/07/2012 time frame when ALL knew former WaMu securities would be suspended any day
• Why would investors be buying former WAMUQ, former WAMPQs while selling former WAHUQs or Piers during this time frame, especially selling former WAHUQs or Piers?

• TPS did discovery on Susman/Equity in his Houston offices prior to 1/25/2012

• In order for POR7 to pass with all parties signing off TPS had to be convinced

• TPS was convinced after a short 30 minute meeting with Susman

• TPS received another 5%, signed on to the plan. Again, dates may be a little off

• After TPS signed on to the plan, very mysterious trading with HUGE volume happened between 1/25/2012 and 2/07 2012 with the price being obviously held down. Why would anybody buy? They possibly bought for future Escrow Shares.

• The deadline for exchange in order to get escrow shares and shares in NEWCO with release signed was around 2/8/2012. Dates may not be exact but very close.

• Now after 2/8/2012, no more exchanges allowed.

• If you invested in Piers at this time, you would NOT receive ANY ESCROW SHARES

• Between 2/9/2012 and 2/23/2012 when the final POR 7 was signed by the court, daily changes were made to the final POR 7

• Keep in mind in POR 6, the Piers which was part hybrid/part equity who were to receive all of the spoils with uncapped payout in POR 6 was capped in POR 7 at a non guaranteed payout. Again, in POR 6, Piers was part hybrid/part equity receiving all of the spoils with equity cancelled. Thus, this totally reversed in POR 7 allowing equity to receive all of the spoils.

• The payout Matrix was tweaked during this time period allowing equity to receive an uncapped payout and to receive all spoils

• Now equity was all set to participate UNCAPPED with all spoils that may come our way while Piers was capped non guaranteed

• The aforementioned may explain all of the very
mysterious and huge volume of trading in former WaMu securities during the latter part of January 2012. Many here remember this mysterious trading

• Especially why Piers were sold off by the former and original Piers planners/investors after their discovery of Susman/Equity, then retailers started buying

• This may explain why investors do not believe in Escrow Shares
Have I told you lately how much I love my escrow shares?


Re: Hearing 23 Diciembre... ¿noticias en enero 2015?


PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that, at the direction of the Court, the hearing scheduled in the above-captioned chapter 11 cases for December 15, 2014 at 10:30 a.m. (Eastern Standard Time) before The Honorable Mary F. Walrath, United States Bankruptcy Court Judge for the District of Delaware, in the United States Bankruptcy Court, 824 North Market Street, 5th Floor, Courtroom 4, Wilmington, Delaware 19801, has been rescheduled and will now take place on December 23, 2014 at 10:30 a.m. (Eastern Standard Time). All matters previously scheduled to be heard on December 15, 2014 at 10:30 a.m. will now be heard on December 23, 2014 at 10:30 a.m. (Eastern Standard Time).


¿Sorpresas por Navidad o solo ilusiones?

La próxima semana se cumplirá 1 año desde el anuncio de la entrada de KKR en WMIH. Hace casi un mes tuvimos un día de +4 Millones acciones... ahora tenemos el hearing del 23 diciembre con la Juez Walrath... En mi humilde opinión la BK se está terminando y la FDIC-R tendrá que liberar todos los activos que tiene en sus libros... ¿Tendremos una Feliz Navidad?

PD: WMILT y WMIH estan conectadas de manera que una no podrá despegar antes que la otra se liquide con el fin de la BK.


Re: ¿Sorpresas por Navidad o solo ilusiones?

Son temas distintos, puede caer algo para los damnificados antiguos accionistas y por otro lado WMIH se puede hundir en las profundidades ya que no tiene negocio solido alguno.
Deja de bombear regalitos de Papa Noel que cada año pronosticas.


Re: ¿Sorpresas por Navidad o solo ilusiones?

Estate tranquilo que en 2015 ya se aclarará todo... y sabras si hay un submarino o un COHETE!


Sigues más quemado que...


WMIH planea mudarse a una nueva ubicación


El edificio: https://www.google.nl/maps/place/1201+3rd+Ave,+Seattle,+WA+98101,+Verenigde+Staten/@47.6073411,-122.3355938,3a,90y,247.21h,107.43t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sOEPcm1ZnHWuhPD2LanQUFA!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x54906ab1620a915b:0xd6e7aab4210bfb8!6m1!1e1

La antigua sede de WAMU en Seattle

1) The $38/sq. ft. annual rate is $3.16/sq. ft. monthly. WOW. That's a really high lease rate. We don't know the location so it makes it hard to determine proper market price, but just general office space goes for around $1.20/sq. ft. Office space for desks and phones is little more than a cold shell so the landlord doesn't have a lot of tenant improvements that are landlord financed to recoup in the lease. When you start paying $3+ a sq. ft. you are paying for a highly visible, high traffic location. Maybe this is a triple net lease and it is in the heart of Seattle which would help make more sense, but still, the lease terms feels "generous".

2) Why does WMIH need 9,900 sq. ft.? The amount being paid in annual lease is an odd ball number (9934.89). WMIH's lease may be paying for triple net so the space is smaller. So maybe the space is 6,700 to 7,600 sq. ft. But seriously why does WMIH need the equivalent space of three average US residental homes? For two employees?

Either #1) WMIH is planning some serious future growth or 2) whomever signed the terms is an idiot.

I vote #1.

2015... será nuestro año